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so this isn't anything that just is

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limited to the united states it's a

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hi everyone and welcome to that ufo

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podcast it's your news update for the

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end of september start of october

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joining me as always is dan on this one

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how are we

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i'm great thanks andy how are you

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yeah i'm fine we've been talking for a

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while you don't have to we haven't yeah

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it's kind of like yeah yeah yeah i'm

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fine yeah how are you how was your week

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been it doesn't matter people are here

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to hear about the the news and do you

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know what it's funny we've just gone

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through and taking out some of the stuff

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we were going to talk about because

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over the last couple of days it's become

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a little less relevant or

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there's there's more stuff i think we

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can be talking about on on this update

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anyway that's a little more up to date

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the first one dan though is our show on

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kgra which we're very grateful to be a

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part of um it is the other show that ufo

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podcast the other show and a few people

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have mentioned this on the the october

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update that's been out today then but

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it's it's not replacing anything there's

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a couple of people worried about oh is

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this going to be like the new show

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instead of the podcast and no definitely

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not it is and we were looking at the

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youtube format anyway

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and that's not to to replace and like be

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a youtube channel which we have the

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youtube channel but we're still an

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audiobased podcast we like that the best

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and uh there's plenty of good youtube

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channels out there like we've said

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before ucr's kind of got that sewn up

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singularity lab christina gomez project

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unity all these folks are predominantly

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video channels and they do it very very

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well as well

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and uh

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we had a little mess about with a test

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on youtube and loads of people checked

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out and quite like some of the ideas we

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had for it just trying to do something a

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bit different and uh cards on the table

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kgra reached out to us a couple of weeks

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ago and asked if we'd be interested in

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joining up and doing a show with them

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and it's mutually exclusive that you

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know we'll maybe get exposed to some

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some of their audience and and vice

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versa as well so if you checked out last

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night thank you very much there was a

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15-minute interview with ralph

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blumenthal on there there was uh some

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footage review of the the famous turkey

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ufo video and a bit of a discussion

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around future humans and some other bits

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and pieces as well so please check that

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out folks over on kg ra's youtube

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channel i hope people can understand dan

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what am i saying there can you say hey

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no that's even worse um so yeah

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check out yeah

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people check out the kgra youtube

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channel and you will find that show on

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there it's up to watch now on repeat so

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please please check it out and get

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involved because we want it to be a show

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for for all of you enjoy the different

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and you think i i think i've got a take

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send you over and they've got a pretty

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cool video they're filmed uh that'll put

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impressed by it i know some people will

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never be happy with this kind of stuff

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but i appreciated it being shared and

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send us over anything you've got folks

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any suggestions questions or or ideas

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for the pod and we're happy to to

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integrate that in as well with the kgra

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show so that's going to be weekly every

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on to the news then dan you were pretty

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on the ball weren't you regarding the

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new bill update i think you were one of

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the first to get there not that you're

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throws our toys out the prom as a few

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exclusivity or being the first to break

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news but um so what was the update on

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that there was news on a bill from the

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uh senate intel committee i hope i can

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get in that right um it was the

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intelligence authorization act basically

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said they wanted a report every 90 days

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they kind of go in but up ahead there's

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a point where they're gonna join before

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and this is the point now where we're

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about care and for victims of anomalous

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health incidents that could be to do

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everyone who is in this subject um

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officers who have been punished for

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things they shouldn't have been in

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the government departments so i wonder

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ongoing ig investigation with louie

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some people disappointed with aspects of

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it just in the fact that oh why don't

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would have stilted the or stunted the

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growth of that report anyway didn't it

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absolutely and essentially what we're

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the low hanging fruit and now they're

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just making sure that the language is

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there to cover you know the biological

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departments that weren't compliant with

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get confused and people get frustrated

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because they they see these bills as

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this is and what maybe has gone on in

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be sweating right now

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and listen you've got to be honest as

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that people who have a peaked interest

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happening behind the scenes uh ruben

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not sure how to pronounce the sun name

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yet and tim butchet are some of the

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names that are coming into this in play

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and it's not necessarily that they've

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got a huge interest in ufos and want

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disclosure some of these people no doubt

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further their own political careers

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using a budgeting topic which

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that's fine because as long as it gets

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the word out there and it pushes things

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forward then i can't see any issue with

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that yeah this is kind of a result of

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the way that lu alexander and chris

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mellon presented the subject to people

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you know it wasn't aliens in the sky

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it's protecting your airspace and this

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is something that any senator can

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reasonably agree is something that

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everyone should be doing you know secure

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space look after your pilots look after

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everyone in your country it's really

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hard to not see that as a win you know i

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can i can see why all these senators are

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dan as he leans in the sky there wasn't

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um as part of that lou elizondo was on

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thought again i've always said the same

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thing the graphics package is lazy again

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with the jenny mccorbell footage with

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the triangular stuff um at least there

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wasn't a lot of the

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deliberate fakes put in and that's not

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to comment on the authenticity of what

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those angles may be

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it's an improvement it is slow and

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steady wins the race you know uh there

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is one thing i should say about the

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bills just before we move on oh yeah and

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that is the reason for the two of them

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existing i think it's worth knowing um

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so hr 4350 that's the recent bill the

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one that was talked about when lee was

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in san marino with max that only applies

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to the intelligence community

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whereas this other bill

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applies to the intelligence community

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and all the defense department

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components so basically we've got

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everything covered by these two bills

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uh which one's your favorite of the two

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bills then

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uh oh i mean it's like picking a

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favorite child they're gonna i don't

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know if you've seen dragon ball z when

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they do fusion and become one awesome

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thing from two great characters it's

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kind of like that couldn't be like a

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megazord that could be a more geeky

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conversation

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and then you mentioned dragon ball z

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moving on though like and it's still

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tied in actually with it is it like i

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say louis lozando's appearance on fox

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news uh

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he emphasized a couple of points that i

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thought was thought were particularly

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interesting not that it was a

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groundbreaking piece but i think it was

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just keeping the conversation alive in

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the mainstream which is which was good

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um

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lou emphasized that the two points that

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won he discussed as you've mentioned and

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the likelihood of adverse medical

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effects as a result of uap encounters uh

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he mentioned pilots specifically which

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again i don't know if that's just the

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the term that he wanted to use or if he

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is thinking of specifically pilots who

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have encountered these and not just

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military personnel in general and also

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that too the us government likely again

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does have pieces of recovered material

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and these should be shared with with

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congress as part of this so uh and

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tucker also asked about the

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you know general consensus is that it's

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it's not russia or china and lewd on the

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the face with the eyes and

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it's clearly not but

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off the record the these officials are

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of the opinion more and more it's

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something else

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which is which is good to hear

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it is yeah and and lu lu kind of in that

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portion of the the interview

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describe why it's important to kind of

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have that possibility on the table you

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know we we always talk about you can't

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take something off the table until you

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can right um and he just points out when

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he's saying it's not you know the

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consensus is not russian or chinese he

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says of course you've got to keep that

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door open just to crack it helps to have

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this conversation it helps socialize it

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initially to some folks who are just now

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hearing about this for the first time so

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it's all about how you present the

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subject you know you go running in with

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a tinfoil hat and you're gonna get

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ignored

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next up one that i've not managed to get

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to yet myself i'm not gonna lie when i

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saw it was potentially five hours long

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uh richard dolan done a show on the

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wilson davis documents this is something

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that again the last couple of months has

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reared its head but i fear it's veering

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into the territory of it's being

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discussed

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ad nauseam too much to death with not a

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whole lot to be added to it

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is that where you're at with it as well

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dan for the moment and that's not to

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downplay how important these these are

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or could be but it's just like they keep

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getting brought up

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yeah i'd say so i i mean it's it's one

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of those spinning plates right like

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there's nothing i can find to

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authenticate them there's nothing that

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i've seen

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that has you know made them look fake to

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me um

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this is something a lot of people uh

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smile and myself are looking into so

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it's one of those things that i'm kind

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of sat back letting other people run the

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race um and you know i'll look at the

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results as they present them um but for

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now it's definitely a spinning plate it

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seems to me like we we've talked before

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about the the idea that disclosure or

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whatever eventually comes out of all of

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this it's not going to be one smoking

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gun here's the the craft here's the body

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here's the video it's going to be like a

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massive file of evidence that just the

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table collapses under the weight of that

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and it feels like there there's there's

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people going through the folder where

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you've got all this great stuff all this

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footage all the testimony the videos the

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the magazines the podcasts the

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documentaries the movies the the news

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segments but there's some people just

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seem stuck on this one little section of

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the folder go look at these documents

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look at these documents yes that's great

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we've seen them but look at all this

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other stuff as well

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and there are other things that need

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focused on and i feel that's just where

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i see people like debating it still

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ferociously and it's like neither side

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can prove whether they are 100 genuine

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or 100 you know not because

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as we know admiral wilson has denied

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that it happened um eric davis

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is very much of the opinion that it did

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um

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the meeting there's no way of proving as

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as far as we know that it did and no one

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has that so you just have to take it and

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you know at face value you can choose to

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to believe it or not you can choose to

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kind of put it on the back burner as a

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it's cool but that we've not got enough

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to go on and and that's kind of where

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i'm at with it where i get the gist i

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know what they are i know what the

431
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ramifications are

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but as long as you've got admiral wilson

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the only way i think it changes for me

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is if he comes out and says

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do you know what maybe something did

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happen or maybe there was a meeting and

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it just moves it forward a little bit

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other than that it's just one of those

439
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that how much how much more can we get

440
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on it what you've watched the richard

441
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dolan piece was there was there much to

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go undone within that i mean it it's a

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great piece richard's pieces on it are

444
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very very thorough you know same as jay

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from project unity the these are the

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people i mean when i say there are

447
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people doing a lot of really good work

448
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in this same same with blackvault as

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well you know joe mergier um all of them

450
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are really really digging into this um

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and

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if you go on social media you'll see

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them going at each other as well um

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but i don't like stepping into that kind

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of energy so i'm just kind of standing

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back and letting it play out um i know

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that some important people have had it

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put in front of them um you know people

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like ross calter are aware of it um if

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there's journalistic work to be done i

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trust ross that he'll find what's there

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you know

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dan you don't like to step into these

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things but um you have commented on a

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few threads on twitter recently um

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particularly on the anjali anjali uh

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pronunciation of anjali

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um so the whole thing's dead to me

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okay and you know what this is just

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opinion a few people had got in touch

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and they were like i was disappointed

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the way you guys talked about it or you

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know like you know what you'd said it

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was you know dismissive and i think we

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were fair that you know what it was just

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opinion and we're entitled to that as

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well as everyone else says i hope this

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expedition happens i hope there is some

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form of proof comes from it i hope it

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moves the conversation forward um

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to me it's like imagine

482
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you know a football side

483
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you can pick american footballers

484
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football it doesn't matter um

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playing a game

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and then there's just this shiny thing

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on the sidelines

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that you know it's an intriguing story

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but it's just a shiny thing on the

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sidelines to me

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stuff here is this bill stuff it's going

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through it's legitimizing the subject

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this is the long game

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the angelis stuff

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like i say if she comes back with it and

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i'm wrong i'm wrong but for now my my

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response is that you know is is it

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really and it's so left field isn't it

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when you talk about that that you've

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you've got this like i was talking

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before about the the folder and the

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weight of evidence this is one of those

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things that

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it either

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blows things wide open because of what's

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being claimed and you know what maybe it

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will be the thing that we go wild you

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know what forget everything else we

509
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don't need those bills anymore because

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we have this proof or or something it

511
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would be it would be amazing absolutely

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it just doesn't seem to be going that

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way and again for those asking angelia

514
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said a couple of times so come on i've

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dm'd i get she's got a family she's busy

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and she's certainly not um she doesn't

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owe me anything

518
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respectfully she has enough time to be

519
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on twitter being vegan opaque about

520
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things so uh so

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you know if she doesn't want to talk

522
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about it that's fair but be honest about

523
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that it's another red flag for me

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the invite's still there for her i i

525
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would like to have a discussion on on

526
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things but that's a reference to all the

527
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interviews she's passed on by the way

528
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not just this channel yeah no no i know

529
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she's done the a couple the steve

530
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cambion and jimmy church wasn't it so so

531
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those are out there but i've got i guess

532
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i've got some different questions to ask

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and

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of course all respect jew um it's a very

535
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brave thing that's that she's come out

536
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and done but

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it is what it is and it's again right

538
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now like the wilson documents on the

539
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face of it there's no proof and we're

540
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just waiting to see what happens off the

541
00:19:05,270 --> 00:19:03,600
back of it yeah there's not there's not

542
00:19:06,950 --> 00:19:05,280
really much that can come of it until

543
00:19:09,190 --> 00:19:06,960
you get that ultimate piece of evidence

544
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that proves either of those stories so

545
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i'd rather just move on from it you know

546
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i don't want to spend my time

547
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badmouthing it i'm just not convinced

548
00:19:18,150 --> 00:19:15,760
let's move on

549
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moving on down to the demi lovato

550
00:19:23,909 --> 00:19:21,360
unidentified series where you've watched

551
00:19:25,669 --> 00:19:23,919
the first two three episodes of it uh

552
00:19:26,710 --> 00:19:25,679
all uh there are four episodes you know

553
00:19:28,230 --> 00:19:26,720
yep

554
00:19:30,230 --> 00:19:28,240
i've not had a chance this week i have

555
00:19:32,390 --> 00:19:30,240
been extremely busy in the day job i've

556
00:19:34,630 --> 00:19:32,400
got all these things lined up to listen

557
00:19:36,470 --> 00:19:34,640
to slash watch slash review whatever we

558
00:19:37,909 --> 00:19:36,480
get a chance to do um but it's just been

559
00:19:39,750 --> 00:19:37,919
a bit hectic in the day job and

560
00:19:41,590 --> 00:19:39,760
recording side of things so

561
00:19:43,190 --> 00:19:41,600
very appreciative that dan has managed

562
00:19:44,710 --> 00:19:43,200
to get through those and to all the

563
00:19:48,789 --> 00:19:44,720
listeners who have got in touch asking

564
00:19:50,950 --> 00:19:48,799
me my opinion or sharing theirs um so

565
00:19:52,870 --> 00:19:50,960
far i've not really had many people get

566
00:19:54,710 --> 00:19:52,880
in touch to say

567
00:19:57,110 --> 00:19:54,720
anything different to what i thought the

568
00:19:58,549 --> 00:19:57,120
show might turn out to be dan what's

569
00:20:01,029 --> 00:19:58,559
what's your thoughts on having watched

570
00:20:03,669 --> 00:20:01,039
it i'd i'd like to give it a hearty

571
00:20:06,230 --> 00:20:03,679
handy you were right um

572
00:20:08,470 --> 00:20:06,240
it was a really broad light look at the

573
00:20:09,669 --> 00:20:08,480
subject that i think is going to be

574
00:20:12,789 --> 00:20:09,679
you know pretty toothless and

575
00:20:15,830 --> 00:20:12,799
inoffensive but is a generally decent

576
00:20:17,830 --> 00:20:15,840
introduction to everything uh to to

577
00:20:20,630 --> 00:20:17,840
demi's audience

578
00:20:22,310 --> 00:20:20,640
right okay so demi has a pretty sizable

579
00:20:23,750 --> 00:20:22,320
audience a couple of million twitter

580
00:20:25,750 --> 00:20:23,760
followers i don't know about the

581
00:20:27,909 --> 00:20:25,760
instagram and tick tock stuff but just

582
00:20:29,830 --> 00:20:27,919
in general pretty big audience

583
00:20:31,029 --> 00:20:29,840
um there are a few other people joining

584
00:20:33,190 --> 00:20:31,039
demi on

585
00:20:35,590 --> 00:20:33,200
the documentary it's been pretty well

586
00:20:38,630 --> 00:20:35,600
advertised from what i can see

587
00:20:41,590 --> 00:20:38,640
people online um i know christina gomez

588
00:20:43,110 --> 00:20:41,600
was speaking to the executive producer

589
00:20:45,110 --> 00:20:43,120
one of those can i

590
00:20:47,830 --> 00:20:45,120
that's right i feel like his name was

591
00:20:50,310 --> 00:20:47,840
dan but i can't remember yeah um i've

592
00:20:52,390 --> 00:20:50,320
not had a chance to catch that but

593
00:20:53,669 --> 00:20:52,400
the the spin that i've seen from people

594
00:20:55,110 --> 00:20:53,679
and i think we discussed this a little

595
00:20:57,510 --> 00:20:55,120
bit in the past

596
00:20:59,909 --> 00:20:57,520
it's given the size of that audience

597
00:21:01,110 --> 00:20:59,919
it's great exposure of the subject to

598
00:21:03,510 --> 00:21:01,120
that audience

599
00:21:05,590 --> 00:21:03,520
but like with anything

600
00:21:06,950 --> 00:21:05,600
it seems again this is just me from the

601
00:21:09,029 --> 00:21:06,960
outside i would love to hear people's

602
00:21:11,190 --> 00:21:09,039
thoughts on this it's taking a

603
00:21:12,310 --> 00:21:11,200
particular narrative and angle on the

604
00:21:13,510 --> 00:21:12,320
subject

605
00:21:15,510 --> 00:21:13,520
that

606
00:21:16,950 --> 00:21:15,520
maybe we don't necessarily want people

607
00:21:19,029 --> 00:21:16,960
to come into this with because it

608
00:21:21,510 --> 00:21:19,039
doesn't bring people into the subject

609
00:21:23,190 --> 00:21:21,520
with dipping their toe in the water and

610
00:21:25,270 --> 00:21:23,200
you know let's have a look at what this

611
00:21:26,870 --> 00:21:25,280
might be there is a phenomenon here it

612
00:21:29,669 --> 00:21:26,880
seems that straight away we're going in

613
00:21:31,190 --> 00:21:29,679
with those alien hybrid babies all these

614
00:21:32,549 --> 00:21:31,200
et's are

615
00:21:34,630 --> 00:21:32,559
babies these are in one of the first

616
00:21:36,390 --> 00:21:34,640
episodes too it's not like they build up

617
00:21:38,310 --> 00:21:36,400
to that you know yeah imagine their

618
00:21:39,750 --> 00:21:38,320
subjects like and i keep meaning to do

619
00:21:41,190 --> 00:21:39,760
this at some point it's like a spider's

620
00:21:43,430 --> 00:21:41,200
web and in the middle we have like the

621
00:21:46,549 --> 00:21:43,440
phenomenon and off of that we have

622
00:21:49,590 --> 00:21:46,559
et ultra terrestrial interdimensionals

623
00:21:52,230 --> 00:21:49,600
different craft uap ufo and off of those

624
00:21:53,990 --> 00:21:52,240
again names and different ideas and

625
00:21:56,149 --> 00:21:54,000
abductions mutilations all that kind of

626
00:21:57,669 --> 00:21:56,159
stuff and how everything's interlinked

627
00:22:00,230 --> 00:21:57,679
that seems like it just straight away

628
00:22:01,990 --> 00:22:00,240
jumps into one particular thread

629
00:22:03,990 --> 00:22:02,000
and it's the the stephen gray line of

630
00:22:06,549 --> 00:22:04,000
thinking i know demo lovato has had um

631
00:22:08,870 --> 00:22:06,559
meetings with steven grier he wasn't in

632
00:22:11,590 --> 00:22:08,880
it though to to the show's credit he

633
00:22:13,990 --> 00:22:11,600
didn't appear in it and this

634
00:22:15,430 --> 00:22:14,000
generally stuck to decent people nick

635
00:22:17,590 --> 00:22:15,440
pope was in it he was kind of in the

636
00:22:19,110 --> 00:22:17,600
last episode we had kevin day you know

637
00:22:20,870 --> 00:22:19,120
the the nimitz guys telling those

638
00:22:22,549 --> 00:22:20,880
stories um

639
00:22:24,390 --> 00:22:22,559
and that that's the stuff that it worked

640
00:22:26,870 --> 00:22:24,400
up to so

641
00:22:27,909 --> 00:22:26,880
you you could kind of see that that it

642
00:22:32,630 --> 00:22:27,919
was

643
00:22:34,470 --> 00:22:32,640
kind of comes into the subject coming

644
00:22:36,470 --> 00:22:34,480
across all this

645
00:22:40,470 --> 00:22:36,480
really you know

646
00:22:42,870 --> 00:22:40,480
the outlandish stuff um but also the

647
00:22:43,990 --> 00:22:42,880
good stuff do you feel there was enough

648
00:22:46,070 --> 00:22:44,000
of the

649
00:22:47,669 --> 00:22:46,080
let's just say like the the more serious

650
00:22:49,190 --> 00:22:47,679
side of the discussion that would be

651
00:22:51,190 --> 00:22:49,200
going on through the halls of you know

652
00:22:53,669 --> 00:22:51,200
government and getting politicians and

653
00:22:54,549 --> 00:22:53,679
lawmakers involved in this as it is

654
00:23:03,990 --> 00:22:54,559
to

655
00:23:06,070 --> 00:23:04,000
love and light being approached and

656
00:23:07,750 --> 00:23:06,080
let's look at alien hybrid babies and i

657
00:23:09,830 --> 00:23:07,760
mean we are we're 18 months into this

658
00:23:10,710 --> 00:23:09,840
podcast and as yet i've not done a show

659
00:23:13,110 --> 00:23:10,720
on

660
00:23:17,750 --> 00:23:13,120
like alien hybrid babies i haven't told

661
00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:20,950
but do you know what that

662
00:23:25,190 --> 00:23:22,870
am not is that aspect of the

663
00:23:26,630 --> 00:23:25,200
conversation but it just seems like it's

664
00:23:29,190 --> 00:23:26,640
again from a uk point of view you have

665
00:23:31,590 --> 00:23:29,200
like danny dyer on ufos or sean ryder on

666
00:23:34,230 --> 00:23:31,600
ufos and they are

667
00:23:36,149 --> 00:23:34,240
big personalities and characters where a

668
00:23:38,870 --> 00:23:36,159
lot of people who are watching are

669
00:23:39,909 --> 00:23:38,880
watching it dismissively or for a laugh

670
00:23:42,470 --> 00:23:39,919
or

671
00:23:45,350 --> 00:23:42,480
to to make fun of it they want the

672
00:23:46,630 --> 00:23:45,360
sincerity in the show to its credit you

673
00:23:48,549 --> 00:23:46,640
know it's good to hear

674
00:23:51,110 --> 00:23:48,559
demi was clearly interested in it like i

675
00:23:52,149 --> 00:23:51,120
said it's it's about demi's journey to

676
00:23:54,230 --> 00:23:52,159
me

677
00:23:56,630 --> 00:23:54,240
discovering everything that is in this

678
00:23:58,149 --> 00:23:56,640
kind of spider's web again i'm asking

679
00:23:59,750 --> 00:23:58,159
the question i hope people take some

680
00:24:01,590 --> 00:23:59,760
value from this if they haven't watched

681
00:24:05,350 --> 00:24:01,600
it yet but is it

682
00:24:07,909 --> 00:24:05,360
more of a demi lovato reality tv series

683
00:24:11,110 --> 00:24:07,919
that just happens to have ufos as a

684
00:24:15,110 --> 00:24:11,120
backdrop to demi starts the show by

685
00:24:16,830 --> 00:24:15,120
talking about an a dream or experience

686
00:24:20,310 --> 00:24:16,840
that happened

687
00:24:23,190 --> 00:24:20,320
recently and the show is very much her

688
00:24:25,269 --> 00:24:23,200
trying to understand that experience

689
00:24:27,669 --> 00:24:25,279
again i suppose it's not too spoilery to

690
00:24:28,710 --> 00:24:27,679
ask what is that experience

691
00:24:31,029 --> 00:24:28,720
basically

692
00:24:33,350 --> 00:24:31,039
demi thought that she was abducted and

693
00:24:35,430 --> 00:24:33,360
shown the earth from space

694
00:24:37,350 --> 00:24:35,440
the show kicks off with that that's what

695
00:24:40,390 --> 00:24:37,360
demi goes to

696
00:24:42,470 --> 00:24:40,400
when the hypnotic regression takes place

697
00:24:43,830 --> 00:24:42,480
okay i suppose it's going to spoil it if

698
00:24:45,510 --> 00:24:43,840
we want it too much more for people who

699
00:24:47,029 --> 00:24:45,520
do want to go and look at it and i would

700
00:24:49,190 --> 00:24:47,039
never tell someone not to watch

701
00:24:52,390 --> 00:24:49,200
something not to look at a piece of

702
00:24:53,909 --> 00:24:52,400
footage or anything but

703
00:24:55,190 --> 00:24:53,919
to be honest it's something that i'll

704
00:24:57,669 --> 00:24:55,200
i'll have a look at i think i'll

705
00:24:58,950 --> 00:24:57,679
probably skip through some of it as well

706
00:25:00,950 --> 00:24:58,960
um

707
00:25:02,149 --> 00:25:00,960
but it just seems to be what i thought

708
00:25:04,149 --> 00:25:02,159
it was going to be and i've got that

709
00:25:06,870 --> 00:25:04,159
biased right rightly or wrong way with

710
00:25:08,789 --> 00:25:06,880
this kind of stuff and again it's like

711
00:25:12,950 --> 00:25:08,799
if you're not going to make something

712
00:25:14,230 --> 00:25:12,960
that's adding to the conversation

713
00:25:16,710 --> 00:25:14,240
again it's just i suppose it's not my

714
00:25:18,470 --> 00:25:16,720
bag if i want to see it that way so for

715
00:25:21,590 --> 00:25:18,480
sure but yeah i understand it it's not

716
00:25:22,549 --> 00:25:21,600
going to be the phenomena for people but

717
00:25:24,549 --> 00:25:22,559
it

718
00:25:25,990 --> 00:25:24,559
might make a few more people open up

719
00:25:28,470 --> 00:25:26,000
about things that have happened to them

720
00:25:30,230 --> 00:25:28,480
or just normalize the conversation

721
00:25:31,990 --> 00:25:30,240
what i will say is on the back of that

722
00:25:33,590 --> 00:25:32,000
and i've not written the names down then

723
00:25:35,750 --> 00:25:33,600
you may be able to pull them off the top

724
00:25:37,669 --> 00:25:35,760
of your head there are a few other

725
00:25:39,990 --> 00:25:37,679
pieces coming out in the near future

726
00:25:41,430 --> 00:25:40,000
where trailers have just dropped online

727
00:25:43,269 --> 00:25:41,440
you've got the names of them dan one of

728
00:25:45,590 --> 00:25:43,279
them the consciousness connection isn't

729
00:25:48,310 --> 00:25:45,600
it yeah that's right um this one's by

730
00:25:50,149 --> 00:25:48,320
dave dave beatty he did the nimitz

731
00:25:53,269 --> 00:25:50,159
encounter documentary that a lot of

732
00:25:55,350 --> 00:25:53,279
people have watched um it's kind of a 3d

733
00:25:57,190 --> 00:25:55,360
you know retelling of that encounter uh

734
00:25:58,870 --> 00:25:57,200
so dave's just gonna be basically

735
00:26:00,470 --> 00:25:58,880
exploring consciousness in it and

736
00:26:02,070 --> 00:26:00,480
everything that entails so that'll be a

737
00:26:03,669 --> 00:26:02,080
very interesting film

738
00:26:05,350 --> 00:26:03,679
i think that's what gary voorhees

739
00:26:06,870 --> 00:26:05,360
originally had shared that one on his

740
00:26:08,390 --> 00:26:06,880
facebook page so

741
00:26:09,830 --> 00:26:08,400
i don't know if gary has an involvement

742
00:26:11,510 --> 00:26:09,840
potentially in that i know he's been

743
00:26:13,669 --> 00:26:11,520
doing some filming for various things so

744
00:26:15,830 --> 00:26:13,679
that would be good to see and there was

745
00:26:17,830 --> 00:26:15,840
another one as well am i correct at the

746
00:26:19,190 --> 00:26:17,840
observers

747
00:26:20,789 --> 00:26:19,200
which again it's funny to me we've

748
00:26:22,390 --> 00:26:20,799
spoken about fringe a lot this week in

749
00:26:24,870 --> 00:26:22,400
time travel and that's what those time

750
00:26:27,190 --> 00:26:24,880
travelers are called and is that the one

751
00:26:28,310 --> 00:26:27,200
i've seen with the trailer with uh linda

752
00:26:31,190 --> 00:26:28,320
molten how

753
00:26:32,789 --> 00:26:31,200
john greenwald

754
00:26:35,110 --> 00:26:32,799
yeah i think that's correct

755
00:26:36,390 --> 00:26:35,120
okay cool um so yeah so there are some

756
00:26:38,390 --> 00:26:36,400
more pieces coming out and it's always

757
00:26:40,310 --> 00:26:38,400
interesting to watch those i almost

758
00:26:42,470 --> 00:26:40,320
prefer those

759
00:26:45,510 --> 00:26:42,480
i don't want to see a lower budget but

760
00:26:47,350 --> 00:26:45,520
more independent style pieces to to some

761
00:26:50,070 --> 00:26:47,360
of those big celebrity ones like the

762
00:26:52,549 --> 00:26:50,080
demi lovato piece um just i think you

763
00:26:54,870 --> 00:26:52,559
get some of that more gritty

764
00:26:56,390 --> 00:26:54,880
conversation potentially as part of it

765
00:26:57,909 --> 00:26:56,400
but maybe again that's just being more

766
00:26:59,430 --> 00:26:57,919
involved in the subject that you you

767
00:27:02,230 --> 00:26:59,440
look for that because you're aware of

768
00:27:04,310 --> 00:27:02,240
all the the kind of out look the general

769
00:27:05,990 --> 00:27:04,320
stuff so so yeah there's some stuff to

770
00:27:08,310 --> 00:27:06,000
get your teeth sunk into as we can

771
00:27:10,390 --> 00:27:08,320
approach the end of the year as well

772
00:27:13,190 --> 00:27:10,400
just to finish off folks uh you may have

773
00:27:15,669 --> 00:27:13,200
heard we interviewed cut joy mungo from

774
00:27:17,350 --> 00:27:15,679
theories of everything youtube channel

775
00:27:18,789 --> 00:27:17,360
uh that was uh do you know what i don't

776
00:27:21,350 --> 00:27:18,799
want to say it was a hard interview for

777
00:27:25,830 --> 00:27:21,360
me because i really enjoyed it but cut

778
00:27:27,029 --> 00:27:25,840
is a very articulate very intellectual

779
00:27:30,070 --> 00:27:27,039
really

780
00:27:33,110 --> 00:27:30,080
intense guy in a way to speak to but he

781
00:27:34,630 --> 00:27:33,120
he was great um dan has seen it because

782
00:27:36,710 --> 00:27:34,640
dam is doing the editing for the youtube

783
00:27:38,950 --> 00:27:36,720
video and i was really keen on dan's

784
00:27:40,470 --> 00:27:38,960
opinion because at times i just thought

785
00:27:42,070 --> 00:27:40,480
you know there were parts of it where i

786
00:27:43,190 --> 00:27:42,080
don't lie and pretend i know what kurt

787
00:27:45,750 --> 00:27:43,200
was talking about with some of the

788
00:27:47,750 --> 00:27:45,760
terminology and the wording but he he

789
00:27:50,310 --> 00:27:47,760
breaks things down in a very unique way

790
00:27:51,990 --> 00:27:50,320
with his own perspective than

791
00:27:53,669 --> 00:27:52,000
what you really wanted to be a part of

792
00:27:54,870 --> 00:27:53,679
the actual interview itself but it's not

793
00:27:56,230 --> 00:27:54,880
that i wouldn't let you you just had

794
00:28:00,230 --> 00:27:56,240
some stuff on and couldn't make that

795
00:28:02,149 --> 00:28:00,240
time um what were your thoughts on it

796
00:28:04,310 --> 00:28:02,159
it was amazing it was a very refreshing

797
00:28:06,230 --> 00:28:04,320
interview um i'm i'm a fan of kurt's

798
00:28:08,389 --> 00:28:06,240
channel anyway i like the way he

799
00:28:09,990 --> 00:28:08,399
approaches subjects you know he he

800
00:28:11,909 --> 00:28:10,000
doesn't tend to tell people they're

801
00:28:13,110 --> 00:28:11,919
wrong he tends to try and explore with

802
00:28:14,630 --> 00:28:13,120
them why

803
00:28:16,789 --> 00:28:14,640
well what they're trying to communicate

804
00:28:17,909 --> 00:28:16,799
you know because we all get tied up in

805
00:28:19,510 --> 00:28:17,919
language

806
00:28:21,669 --> 00:28:19,520
and there were some really interesting

807
00:28:24,870 --> 00:28:21,679
subjects that you guys talked about

808
00:28:26,389 --> 00:28:24,880
but for me just overall hearing

809
00:28:27,909 --> 00:28:26,399
hearing someone with kurt's background

810
00:28:28,830 --> 00:28:27,919
in mathematics

811
00:28:31,510 --> 00:28:28,840
talk

812
00:28:35,029 --> 00:28:31,520
about this subject

813
00:28:36,310 --> 00:28:35,039
and what kind of attracted him to it

814
00:28:38,389 --> 00:28:36,320
these are the people we should be

815
00:28:39,990 --> 00:28:38,399
looking for to bring into this subject

816
00:28:41,669 --> 00:28:40,000
you know the we're gonna see more and

817
00:28:42,950 --> 00:28:41,679
more people like come in kind of throw

818
00:28:45,029 --> 00:28:42,960
in their hands i'm saying you know what

819
00:28:46,310 --> 00:28:45,039
i'm like a kid here i don't really know

820
00:28:47,990 --> 00:28:46,320
what we're talking about but i'm going

821
00:28:51,190 --> 00:28:48,000
to kind of feel in the dark with you and

822
00:28:52,710 --> 00:28:51,200
we're going to figure this out um i i i

823
00:28:54,630 --> 00:28:52,720
also got the impression and speaking to

824
00:28:55,590 --> 00:28:54,640
him that he's almost still wrestling

825
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with

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00:28:59,269 --> 00:28:57,360
the fact he's actually discussing the

827
00:29:01,190 --> 00:28:59,279
subject seriously and he's really honest

828
00:29:02,710 --> 00:29:01,200
and mentions how it was only recently

829
00:29:04,950 --> 00:29:02,720
got involved and he tells you how that

830
00:29:06,230 --> 00:29:04,960
happened but he's almost still at times

831
00:29:08,230 --> 00:29:06,240
a little

832
00:29:10,549 --> 00:29:08,240
surprised that i'm actually having this

833
00:29:13,110 --> 00:29:10,559
conversation but it has to be had i

834
00:29:14,630 --> 00:29:13,120
think he's came to that realization yeah

835
00:29:16,389 --> 00:29:14,640
yeah absolutely you know we're we're

836
00:29:18,389 --> 00:29:16,399
here not being bothered that there are

837
00:29:20,310 --> 00:29:18,399
two bills going through congress and

838
00:29:21,909 --> 00:29:20,320
then we've got people like kurt they're

839
00:29:23,669 --> 00:29:21,919
kind of going what we're even having

840
00:29:25,350 --> 00:29:23,679
this conversation and it's like yeah

841
00:29:28,310 --> 00:29:25,360
they're just the official legislation

842
00:29:30,789 --> 00:29:28,320
there are all these military signs

843
00:29:33,269 --> 00:29:30,799
the the world is catching up with what's

844
00:29:35,510 --> 00:29:33,279
going on and and it was lovely do you

845
00:29:37,110 --> 00:29:35,520
you guys kind of chew through that

846
00:29:39,190 --> 00:29:37,120
i know a lot of people have reached out

847
00:29:41,190 --> 00:29:39,200
to cut and they mentioned they would

848
00:29:42,230 --> 00:29:41,200
love them to have louise elizondo on to

849
00:29:43,990 --> 00:29:42,240
speak to

850
00:29:45,510 --> 00:29:44,000
and i don't think it's unfair to

851
00:29:48,070 --> 00:29:45,520
announce this because at the end of the

852
00:29:49,990 --> 00:29:48,080
interview he does say here's a bit of a

853
00:29:51,590 --> 00:29:50,000
um exclusive for your listeners that

854
00:29:54,070 --> 00:29:51,600
louise is coming on in the next couple

855
00:29:55,669 --> 00:29:54,080
of weeks um so i'm not spoiling anything

856
00:29:57,830 --> 00:29:55,679
for him because he did announce that on

857
00:29:59,430 --> 00:29:57,840
the podcast it's just that that's not

858
00:30:00,789 --> 00:29:59,440
coming out to the 11th so if you've

859
00:30:03,190 --> 00:30:00,799
listened all the way through this update

860
00:30:05,029 --> 00:30:03,200
folks um you'll hear that announced by

861
00:30:06,389 --> 00:30:05,039
cart in the near future as well but

862
00:30:07,269 --> 00:30:06,399
that's what i'm really looking forward

863
00:30:10,630 --> 00:30:07,279
to

864
00:30:11,909 --> 00:30:10,640
those those same questions that so many

865
00:30:13,190 --> 00:30:11,919
of us have

866
00:30:15,269 --> 00:30:13,200
of lou

867
00:30:17,110 --> 00:30:15,279
um he's going to have that approach

868
00:30:18,310 --> 00:30:17,120
where there's just things that he's

869
00:30:21,269 --> 00:30:18,320
trying to

870
00:30:23,269 --> 00:30:21,279
to compute as he asks them um

871
00:30:25,269 --> 00:30:23,279
and i wish i was that articulate as as

872
00:30:27,510 --> 00:30:25,279
he speaks so

873
00:30:28,870 --> 00:30:27,520
you did really well too you know you're

874
00:30:30,950 --> 00:30:28,880
i i like

875
00:30:32,789 --> 00:30:30,960
your ability to say i don't know it led

876
00:30:34,950 --> 00:30:32,799
to a lot of explanations from kurt even

877
00:30:36,549 --> 00:30:34,960
though he's very aware of his audience

878
00:30:38,710 --> 00:30:36,559
and he's clearly aware of when he gets a

879
00:30:40,470 --> 00:30:38,720
bit too technical um

880
00:30:42,470 --> 00:30:40,480
you you chose the right moments to kind

881
00:30:44,070 --> 00:30:42,480
of stick with a certain concept and kind

882
00:30:45,110 --> 00:30:44,080
of go hey what's that about let's talk

883
00:30:47,350 --> 00:30:45,120
about that

884
00:30:48,950 --> 00:30:47,360
i think people really enjoy it i used a

885
00:30:51,590 --> 00:30:48,960
jigsaw analogy for something that you

886
00:30:53,590 --> 00:30:51,600
liked so i was quite chuffed with them

887
00:30:55,110 --> 00:30:53,600
i like that but listen that the cut dry

888
00:30:57,669 --> 00:30:55,120
mongol interview will be out in a couple

889
00:30:59,029 --> 00:30:57,679
of days time on patreon and apple

890
00:31:00,710 --> 00:30:59,039
premium so if you sign up to those

891
00:31:03,590 --> 00:31:00,720
you'll get access to that early and

892
00:31:05,909 --> 00:31:03,600
advert free which is always a benefit

893
00:31:08,950 --> 00:31:05,919
and it will be available to everyone on

894
00:31:10,870 --> 00:31:08,960
monday the 11th of october uh so that is

895
00:31:12,710 --> 00:31:10,880
one to look forward to next week you're

896
00:31:14,710 --> 00:31:12,720
going to have the

897
00:31:16,789 --> 00:31:14,720
listener call in part two that's been

898
00:31:20,230 --> 00:31:16,799
delayed a couple of weeks that'll be out

899
00:31:21,590 --> 00:31:20,240
and you should have this update pod and

900
00:31:23,909 --> 00:31:21,600
is there anything else we're missing dan

901
00:31:25,590 --> 00:31:23,919
of the new kg ray show at number two as

902
00:31:27,110 --> 00:31:25,600
well where we'll be discussing will be

903
00:31:28,870 --> 00:31:27,120
an interview with tim mcmillan talking

904
00:31:30,950 --> 00:31:28,880
about project titan which came out of

905
00:31:32,870 --> 00:31:30,960
san marino and we'll be discussing and

906
00:31:34,870 --> 00:31:32,880
breaking that one down as well so

907
00:31:36,789 --> 00:31:34,880
hopefully folk join us for all of those

908
00:31:38,870 --> 00:31:36,799
it'd be good to hear from everyone again

909
00:31:40,310 --> 00:31:38,880
we'll see if there's another news pod if

910
00:31:42,389 --> 00:31:40,320
there's enough news to discuss that

911
00:31:44,789 --> 00:31:42,399
would be great if not it'll be the the

912
00:31:46,870 --> 00:31:44,799
following week but plenty of content

913
00:31:48,950 --> 00:31:46,880
still to come dan thank you very much

914
00:31:50,470 --> 00:31:48,960
for your time thank you it's it's always

915
00:31:52,549 --> 00:31:50,480
nice to talk through this

916
00:31:54,549 --> 00:31:52,559
that is all for this week's show thank

917
00:31:56,549 --> 00:31:54,559
you very much for listening please

918
00:31:59,269 --> 00:31:56,559
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919
00:32:01,509 --> 00:31:59,279
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00:32:05,590 --> 00:32:03,440
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00:32:09,669 --> 00:32:07,120
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00:32:17,430 --> 00:32:14,559
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00:32:20,630 --> 00:32:17,440
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00:32:22,710 --> 00:32:20,640
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929
00:32:25,740 --> 00:32:22,720
and again folks as always keep looking

930
00:32:40,950 --> 00:32:25,750
up you never know what you might see

931
00:32:43,990 --> 00:32:42,549
face for the parliament effect the

932
00:32:45,669 --> 00:32:44,000
little [\h__\h] hovered right inside of my

933
00:32:47,430 --> 00:32:45,679
window when i shoved out the screen he

934
00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:47,440
made it an issue i don't think he

935
00:32:52,050 --> 00:33:01,830
[Music]

936
00:33:04,950 --> 00:33:03,350
i can't imagine how it could have been

937
00:33:08,780 --> 00:33:04,960
any better i got to the top of the

938
00:33:08,790 --> 00:33:17,110
[Music]

939
00:33:23,190 --> 00:33:19,509
i jumped back nearly kissed myself and i

940
00:33:26,710 --> 00:33:24,950
on my head window everything was weird

941
00:33:28,310 --> 00:33:26,720
and everything was red i helped out my

942
00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:28,320
boys they thought this was noise they

943
00:34:05,350 --> 00:33:56,430
[Music]

944
00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:07,029
consider serious space consider your

945
00:34:33,270 --> 00:34:23,540
[Music]

946
00:34:33,870 --> 00:34:33,280
it wasn't a tic tac and not quite a

947
00:35:05,480 --> 00:34:33,880
saucer

948
00:35:05,490 --> 00:35:10,069
[Music]

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so